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Old 07-28-2009, 02:50 AM
willowplays willowplays is offline
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Default Random, widespread VG channels flagged, no response to contact

I, as well as a few other video game live streams, have recently been flagged. Not a single one of us got an email with information as to exactly why. I personally have sent in information requesting for my channel to be unflagged, per the tutorial here, and after a month have found that my channel is STILL flagged for review. I find it almost ridiculous that a channel can be flagged almost immediately, and instantly is "crippled" by being pulled out of public sight, removing any potentials for new visitors.

I've been an avid live streamer for some time, but left after a few people came to find how channels were faking viewers, and after doing some tests we came to see not only how simple it was, but how badly it affected those of us that were legitimate with our viewer count. I decided to come back, see about returning to the JTV scene, only to be flagged within the very first day I was back. I immediately sent in info requesting my channel be unflagged. This was over a month ago.

Now, even worse is this. I had a different channel get flagged approximately a year and a half ago. Go check, its justin.tv/wandererwillow. It's STILL UNDER REVIEW. I sent in NUMEROUS contact emails to get it unblocked, to no avail. I never got any info, never had anyone respond to my contacting, and it still has yet to be "reviewed by humans", as you put it.

So, I may be done streaming here for now, but I want to ensure this doesn't happen to others that stream here, and it currently is. These guys stream for free, bring hundreds of users to the site, and only bring you revenue through your blatant and splattered advertisements over everything...I remember when you didn't have to close the ad over a person's stream every 5 minutes, and if the box above your chat lit up, it was because someone got banned or timed out, not because you could get 2 large pizza's for only $15.99 at Dominos.

My point is this...we, as streamers, do this of our own free will, and in the end you (the staff of Justin.tv) benefit from it. We get the enjoyment of entertaining fans, but receive no money from you to do so. So to have a system that allows users to (falsely) report channels and instantly cripple them by removing them from search, front page, and public view completely, you're already removing so much from them. The human review should come BEFORE the removal. Plus, the claim of it taking a few weeks for a review...I point out again that my other channel sits at a year and a half, still awaiting review.

Fix this broken system. There are a ton of great gaming streams that are getting hit with this and we're getting nothing from you in return. With what you get from us for free, the least you could do is give the benefit of the doubt, and some respect to those that give their time doing what they do. I hope this gets fixed, and hope to be able to maybe return and stream again.

Ben of "Willow Plays"

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Old 07-28-2009, 02:59 AM
KazuNi KazuNi is offline
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our channel is stuck with the same dilemma. We were flagged for no apparent reason around 2 weeks ago and we sent an email for a flag appeal. No response what so ever. As our channel is part of a upcoming charity even with 20 or so other people its needed for us to be in the public eye but we cant when we're flagged! we're still awaiting a response which we wont get anytime soon it seems and patience is running thin.

justin.tv/kazu_ni still flagged. no dice.
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:23 AM
saffire saffire is offline
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To all with flagged channels , Sorry for your plite , I will raise awareness with the staff and see what can be done about this.

All staff and Admins take your concerns seriously and will see what can be done about these issues.

Please remember that no matter what you are streaming , you must abide by the DMCA and TOS guidelines.
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:31 AM
willowplays willowplays is offline
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The problem isn't just the flagging, it's how long it takes for the review (if it ever happens) and that I have yet to even know WHY it was flagged. How do I know what I did wrong to get flagged if noone tells me? Again, a year and a half on my Wandererwillow channel, still flagged and awaiting review, and I STILL have no idea why. How am I supposed to know exactly what I did, if I did in fact do anything wrong?

I thank you for your help though...I know this is really causing stress to quite a few other video game broadcasters as we're just here to entertain and do so freely, and this just kills alot of people's desire to do so. That screws JTV out of revenue, the broadcaster out of fans, and the fans out of entertainment. No win situation.
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:55 PM
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Agree'd.

Sent in an email as well.
It appears the other flagged channels, have been unbanned.

All our broadcasts, the 10 minutes we broadcasted, follow the DMCA; among other requirements.

Let me know!

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Old 07-29-2009, 12:15 PM
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Just purchased a Dazzle DVC 100, and I am still banned from my channel.

I purchased this hardware to help me broadcast, and I tried creating a new channel. And as soon as I clicked broadcast it said I violated TOS, how is this possible?

Please unban my channel, I might return this Dazzle card... Its hard to understand what is going on. Waiting still to hear back from support.
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